The boy said that she was really nice, even nicer than some of the people at the kingdom hall. The elder responded, “Really? Does she have a friend?”
Well done. Your 3 day sounded much more entertaining than my three day!
Winston.
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Adventures at the District Convention
by RunningMan inwell, after a 15 month absence from the kingdom hall, i once again found myself in the biggest kingdom hall of all the district convention.
as in previous years, the material presented was dull and repetitious, so once again, i was forced to provide my own entertainment.
so, like last year, i am pleased to present a further installment to my assembly adventures, called:
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JGnat's comments on WT May 15, 2003 Christ Speaks to the Congregations
by jgnat inwt may 15, 2003 christ speaks to the congregations study june 29, 2003
here we study about the seven stars talked about in revelation 2, whom the article states logically denote spirit-anointed overseers, or bodies of elders.
* in revelation 2, the seven congregations are alternatively complimented for their strength, and slammed for their areas of weakness.
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jgnat,
Yes, those are very good Q's!
I sat through the WT study also on Sunday. Here's how our meeting was wrapped up. Disgusting!
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As I get settled in, I see that they are starting to consider paragraph #6. The paragraph is another example of sifting the facts by the WTS. There is a sentence half way through that says, paraphrased, that we most oppose apostates.
The WTS then cites 2 Cor 11:12-15, 26.
The question is now asked for the paragraph. Let the “Two-minutes Hate” begin.
Well everyone falls in line. The word “hate” is freely thrown around. We must oppose apostates and hate what is bad. No one notices that 2 Cor was taken completely out of context. While yes, it says this:
”13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. “
in the same chapter Paul also admonished the Corinthians to do this:
*** Rbi8 2 Corinthians 11:19-20 *** 19 For YOU gladly put up with the unreasonable persons, seeing YOU are reasonable. 20 In fact, YOU put up with whoever enslaves YOU , whoever devours [what YOU have], whoever grabs [what YOU have], whoever exalts himself over [ YOU ], whoever strikes YOU in the face.
Humm, is appears that we are supposed to endure and put up with such men. Even in vs. 26 Paul is citing all of the things that he has endured, including as vs. 26 says, “
*** Rbi8 2 Corinthians 11:26 *** in journeys often, in dangers from rivers, in dangers from highwaymen, in dangers from [my own] race, in dangers from the nations, in dangers in the city, in dangers in the wilderness, in dangers at sea, in dangers among FALSE BROTHERS,
But of course none of this is noticed by the R&F. I am amazed at how people can be using the Bible and yet be so blind. I am saddened that I was once like this too. No wonder why I felt miserable so many times in my life.
The hate continues in the same paragraph. An elder comments on *** Rbi8 2 John 10 ***
10 If anyone comes to YOU and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into YOUR homes or say a greeting to him.“So we see, we must oppose such ones and remove them from the congregation to protect the flock,”
And actually, the scripture says “home” not congregation. Again, no one notices.
Now the highlight is the end of the WatchTower. The congregation is being led by the WT conductor through the review questions. And the final question I believe asks, to paraphrase, “How are we to view apostates?”
Well this is so easy our conductor now does a little game that I am sure others have seen done at their congregation also. He asks for all the children to answer at once.
And the answer is? Well, the answer that the young children are to repeat is, “HATE”.
“hate” , the young mouths murmur.
The conductor doesn’t care for the level of the response he receives the first time around. So he asks the question again. Parents are starting to coach their children to say the desired answer, “Hate”.
“Hate”, the little ones say with growing confidence.
The response is better, but still, it’s just not good enough.
“I know you can do better than that!”
And now, in one resounding, unified accord we get the real message of the WTS from the mouth of babes:
“HATE!”
My heart sank.
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Stay "in" and help...or get out no matter what the cost?
by onacruse inchester
that which is made crooked cannot be made straight.ecclesiastes 1:15 .
you raise a very good question.
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integ,
That's an interesting take on the 'hated because of his name' approach. I never thought it like that. I could see a good dub saying this I guess.
Thx,
Winston.
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Dont Judge me before you know me!
by Tron inwell the international convention finished,.
man am i releived,.
i dont know how people could sit there for four days and listen to people preach all day.my hat is off(and sympathys)for those of you who had to go through this all your life,i just cant.i have been a leader making my own way in life without hurting anyone.. here is an experience i had today,.
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Thanks for listening
No prob Tron. Feels good to vent though, doesn't it?
Yes, they are a bit crazy and full of hate though.
Winston.
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Stay "in" and help...or get out no matter what the cost?
by onacruse inchester
that which is made crooked cannot be made straight.ecclesiastes 1:15 .
you raise a very good question.
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“Get out of her my people!”
Of late I have come to the conclusion that the WTS is the Anti-Christ. I don’t say that lightly or in jest either.
They deny Jesus. We can’t pray directly to Jesus, but it has to be through Jesus.
You know what, if you go through something you are bypassing it. And the WTS trains us to bypass Jesus, and he is supposed to be the mediator between God and men.
Plus the WTS thinks that being hated by the world proves that they are Jesus disciples.
Wrong.
Matt 24: says that Jesus’ disciples would be hated on account of Jesus' name.
When is the last time you have ever heard someone refer to a JW as Christian or think that they even believe in Jesus?
No, usually a householder will say, “Hey, the Watchtower is here!” or “A Jehover is at our door.”
No, the WTS and Christ have no association in the mind of the world. Therefore the WTS cannot be hated by the world on account of Jesus’ name.
Just these simple points alone really demonstrate how far removed the WTS is from any strains of Christianity.
It is truly an evil cult. Evil, because they are not doing it mainly for money, fame, or the other usual scam reasons. The truth is that it is run by men who really believe in all of the shat that they print in the WT. That enough is truly scary to me and borders on delusional thinking IMHO.
Winston.
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The pain has kicked in
by Pistoff inhi all and thanks for being here and caring.
i have had a bad day today.
most of you have heard me rant and rave about my thirty years in the borg, not yet over.
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(((pitsoff)))
Hang in there.
Winston.
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Need help with Watchtower Quote
by Double Edge ini've seen the quote numerous times here, but can't seem to currently find it using the 'search' feature.
it's the one the watchtower uses regarding examining your own religion for the 'truth'.
it's meant for other religions, but i want to turn it around and use it for examining the jws.
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Oh man, the Awake! 2000 June 22 at http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/verify.htm is chuck full of good advice. Amzing that the WTS can print this stuff and sleep at night:
Do Not Be a Victim of Propaganda!
"A fool will believe anything."—PROVERBS 14:15, TODAY'S ENGLISH VERSION.
THERE is a difference—a big difference—between education and propaganda. Education shows you how to think. Propaganda tells you what to think. Good educators present all sides of an issue and encourage discussion. Propagandists relentlessly force you to hear their view and discourage discussion. Often their real motives are not apparent. They sift the facts, exploiting the useful ones and concealing the others. They also distort and twist facts, specializing in lies and half-truths. Your emotions, not your logical thinking abilities, are their target.
Wow.
The hypocrisy of the WTS is breathtaking!
Winston.
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Need help with Watchtower Quote
by Double Edge ini've seen the quote numerous times here, but can't seem to currently find it using the 'search' feature.
it's the one the watchtower uses regarding examining your own religion for the 'truth'.
it's meant for other religions, but i want to turn it around and use it for examining the jws.
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also in the MSfG book:
*** sh 10 1 Why Be Interested in Other Religions? ***
15 With the wide diversity of religious expression that has developed around the world over the past 6,000 years, it is at least educational and mind broadening to understand what others believe and how their beliefs originated. And it might also open up vistas of a more concrete hope for your future. -
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Need help with Watchtower Quote
by Double Edge ini've seen the quote numerous times here, but can't seem to currently find it using the 'search' feature.
it's the one the watchtower uses regarding examining your own religion for the 'truth'.
it's meant for other religions, but i want to turn it around and use it for examining the jws.
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Maybe you’re thinking of this; "Mankind’s Search for God"
*** sh 8 1 Why Be Interested in Other Religions? ***
"To study different religions need not imply infidelity to one’s own faith, but rather it may be enlarged by seeing how other people have sought for reality and have been enriched by their search." Knowledge leads to understanding, and understanding to tolerance of people with a different viewpoint. -
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I'm just kiddin', y'all...
by teejay in10 indisputable truths black people know, but, white people won't admit:.
1. elvis is dead.. 2. having your children curse you out in public is not normal.. 3. jesus was not white.. 4. skinny does not equal sexy.. 5. a 5 year old is too big for a stroller.. 6. n'sync will never hold a candle to the jackson 5.. 7. thomas jefferson had black children.. 8. an occasional butt whupping helps a child stay in line.. 9. kissing your pet is not cute.. 10. rap music is here to stay.
10 indisputable truths white people know, but, black people won't admit:.
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Oh man, keep the top tens coming folks.
Or maybe not, I'm gonna piss my pants!
Winston.